[PanzerBob]

Thanks for the feedback. I do understand now many years later where these men were coming from. In time I met them we were just happy not to be tossed out., which until the bartender asked if we were bothered by the flags and such, and we said no, was looking likely to happen. In those days I was very apolitical maybe with a bent to the right.

In reflection yes they were broken soldiers, trying for a moment to capture a false glory long and rightfully lost. I think the part of this encounter which has always made me remember it, was they sincerely believed in what they were and did. I do recall these guys scared us and we had several beers not to look in a hurry and got out of there. I think it was this moment that caused me to begin to understand what our forefathers were really up against. Up to this point the 3rd Reich and Germany which I was living seemed disconnected, the final realization was the trip to DACHAU later that summer. Even then it was something that didn't have the impression is does now.

I also in no way wanted to elude that I believed Hitler Doctors' treatment gives Hitler or his minions an excuse for his and the Third Reich's actions.
My encounter with the SS came back to me when I was thinking about my response to whether and when did Hitler truly lose it.

As an additional observation on Hitler's side into insanity, one has wonder if his minions hung on for the ride so to speak because they couldn't admit to themselves that they had made such an insane error hitching their lives and their countries future to the coattails of a madman.