[Ingsoc]

A very intresting article and an excellent topic, Klaus.

I think since most people in the countries that suffered by the German (i.e Netherland, Britain) know someone who was in the war there would always be a certain negative attidute towards Germans, sure not like the 50es but the negative feeling still exist, perhaps in 100 years time from now, when not alot people that knew somebody from WW2 would be left the issue will be seen from a more historic view than personal one.

The German as victims? in a sence the average German were (althought not like the people that the Nazis presecuted), I'm talking about some poor private who were sent to die in the hell of the Russian front supposly in defence of Germany, I see no problem in Germans remembering their deaths (after all if you can't mourn your own blood, how would you could be expect to mourn other?) as long as it's will not become a nationalist thing (like "look what the evil allied done to us" etc.) and there would remember that Germany was the aggresor.

German celebrating their defeat in WW2? honestly I don't familiar enought with the modern German society to answer if it's a good thing, I guess with their is a larg aggrement about this then it's should be atleast mentioned as a happy occasion, personly if I were the Bundeskanzler I wouldn't do it if it would cause conteversy.