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Re: The poodle within...
I have difficulty believing that about Rommel. Note that the Einsatzgruppe was staged in Greece. Out of Rommel's control. Odds are, he knew nothing about it. Remember, this is the man who didn't want the SS in Afrika with him in the first place.
The parallel thought is that when Germany invaded Poland, all those generals were just paving the way for the Einsatzgruppen. But how many of them knew about it? Bollocks. |
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Re: The poodle within...
Perhaps Rommel as well would not have known that the Einsatzgruppen are always on his tail. But even if he knew about it: What could he have done? If he refused a direct oder from the "GröFaZ"* he probably would have been forced to take poison and...no wait. That happened. Sorry.
I believe Rommel would have done nothing to stop the Einsatzgruppen. Altough he was no "Nazi" he believed in what he did. And if not for Hitler, then for Germany. * "GröFaZ", German: "Größter Führer aller Zeiten" engl.: "Greatest Führer of all times"
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Re: The poodle within...
I agree with Tom. Rommel may have been an ambitious officer but it doesn't seem that he ever had a great deal of respect for the little corporal or for the chicken farmer.
Certainly by mid-late 1941 the Einsatzgruppen were extremely active in Belorussia and Ukraine and it would be no surprise that the Nazis would rather kill Jews in Palestine immediately rather than have to keep track of them, feed them, and house them. The Aktion Reinhardt camps were operational in early 1942 and Auschwitz II (Birkenau) was operational in late 1941. So clearly the "Final Solution" was well underway by the time of the Second Battle at El Alamein in late 1942. That doesn't mean that Rommel was aware of the actual plans if a military success occurred. But certainly he had to be aware of what was happening elsewhere. In the circles in which he traveled (other generals, etc.) the goings in in the east were well known. To think that he didn't know would be silly. Jews were being "resettled in the East" from the Altreich in 1942 and everyone knew it. There may have been "plausible deniability" as to what was happening to them for the average German, but not for high ranking military officers.
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Re: The poodle within...
It is hard to believe that higer ranking officers had no idea what was going on elsewhere. Otherwise this could explain why Germany (including all it's little helpers) lost the war. Best thing that ever happened to Rommel (for his reputation) is that he lost the war in Afrika and never could be linked to the Holocoust in any way. If he won the battle in Afrika I am certain that we would have an other image of Rommel today.
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Possibly, if he had won in North Afrika he would have been remembered as a greater military genius than he was with such little supplies and support that he had there. Further, linking lots of facts with no direct evidence remains a theory. Even if Rommel agreed with the fuehrer to his face, about the holocaust does not mean he agreed with him. How many times have we agreed with our boss or partner when we really we do not agree at all. That's intelligence. I find it hard to believe that one of the worlds great generals who was kind to his men, compassionate to Pows and had the courage and tenacity to fight at the front; that probably took his own life to save his family. Would be willing or able to help in the murder of terrified defenceless men woman and children.
Last edited by barrett.t; October 9th, 2007 at 09:00 AM. |
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You got a point there. But as usual it is hard to tell where the line between fact and fiction runs.
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