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European War, September 1, 1939 through VE Day The war reached nearly all corners of Europe. Discuss Allied and Axis campaigns, major battles, invasions, strategies, and use of ground, air, and naval assets.

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Old August 4th, 2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Allied Lend-Lease to Russia, thoughts please?

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Absolutely right, to a point. "America" certainly includes Canada and Mexico, as well as the USA. But it also includes Argentina and Guatemala, and all points between. They are SOUTH America. WE are NORTH America. We are ALL Americans, and the fact that US media and US writers proclaim "American" to be purely related to the USA is offensive to the rest of two continents.

This is a pet peeve of mine. I never refer to "American". I refer to the "USA" because it is more accurate, and the use of the term "American" to describe the activities of the USA is pure arrogance, even though it has become popular usage.

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Old August 5th, 2008, 01:23 PM
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Post Re: Allied Lend-Lease to Russia, thoughts please?

Come on guys and gals give it a rest, your opinions on the Lend-Lease in the Eastern front might be........

Cheers, you must have some thoughts here, don't ya??? LOL

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Re: Allied Lend-Lease to Russia, thoughts please?

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Come on guys and gals give it a rest, your opinions on the Lend-Lease in the Eastern front might be........

Cheers, you must have some thoughts here, don't ya??? LOL

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Tom, the issue was introduced into the thread and replied to. Thus is the nature of forums.

However, your point that the thread is veering off topic is well noted, and should be respected.
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Come on guys and gals give it a rest, your opinions on the Lend-Lease in the Eastern front might be........

Cheers, you must have some thoughts here, don't ya??? LOL

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Agreed, my personal thoughts on Lend Lease. Certainly it is problematic if the Soviets could have defeated the Axis powers on the historical timeline without this program, I doubt if anyone on the recieving end of the supplies wanted to find out.
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Thank you, it is really hard to measure what would have really happened if there was no L.L., surlely a harder victory against the Germans, would'nt it??

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Thank you, it is really hard to measure what would have really happened if there was no L.L., surlely a harder victory against the Germans, would'nt it??

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Harder yes, and for the Eastern Front...longer. Simply changing the timing of a Soviet advance into Germany creates a "butterfly effect". If the Ally advance continues unabated, what becomes of Yalta? The post-war political regions of Europe would certainly be altered.
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Lightbulb Re: Allied Lend-Lease to Russia, thoughts please?

And on a counter point, where would all that L.L. end up? I have no clue myself, but someone would have to get it, unless they just put up more US divisions......

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And on a counter point, where would all that L.L. end up? I have no clue myself, but someone would have to get it, unless they just put up more US divisions......

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Assuming it didn't get into the Pacific, the "soft underbelly" could have used it. A stronger presence in the Adriatic region might create some additional "What ifs". Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge base to delve deeper into the possiblities.
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Italy, I never thought about hat part, I did think of the Pacific, or maybe more British divisions.... Maybe French ones that hit the beachs after the normandy landing ould be possible.

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