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View Poll Results: What was the main factor, or factors, on the Russian success in 1944 and 1945?
New Russian command tactics. 4 26.67%
Russian "veteran" status by this time. 4 26.67%
Russian "Mass" of assets by this time. 5 33.33%
Unit specific changes from "lessons learned" in the early-mid war years. 5 33.33%
Simply wore down the Germans, regardless of the points listed above. 5 33.33%
None of thes point listed above, feel free to comment!! 0 0%
Combination of these points, please reply and list which ones you think are. 4 26.67%
German "problems/factors" ONLY, please use post/reply 1 6.67%
This is my "take" on this topic, please use post reply. 1 6.67%
No interest in this topic, just checkin' the poll results is all..... 0 0%
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Old April 17th, 2008, 02:00 PM
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Question Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

I thought I might put this one up and see what you guys might think here. I did this one on another site (the one Alex and I first met), and to date after about 9 months up, only 14 votes.......
I have my own thoughts on this, so what are yours?

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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

I choose a combination, because a) the russians had learned from the earlier fighting, b) they did have numerical superiority, c)the Germans were worn down and without some of their best commanders, e.g. Kleist & Manstein and d)Hitler interfered too much, and the Russian skills included deception so the Germans often did not know where the next blow was falling, e.g. when Bagration hit, the Germans were expecting an attack further south, etc.
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Comments please, my friend....

Cheers, I just know you must have something more to "say" than

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Hey!! You "forgot" to vote to, so please......... vote, if you would. thanks.

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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

I think most of the first five things listed but also the Russians had learned to organize their logistics better. There was also a drain by the west of key elements like German fighters, anti-aircraft guns etc.

I guess I do not see any one factor as dominating.

In US/Japan for example it the US supperior production that made it hopeless for the japanese.
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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

It was overall a combination of factors, but I figure that the German lack of men, equipment, and supplies was the major factor.
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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

Even with the men and equipment, the Germans were constantly deceived by Russian deception--so I don't that as the major factor.
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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

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Comments please, my friend....

Cheers, I just know you must have something more to "say" than

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Hey!! You "forgot" to vote to, so please......... vote, if you would. thanks.


TRDG, I did NOT post this!! Either my account has been hijacked or I osted in error, I will try changing my password!!
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Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

I went with the combo, and feel the biggest effect was that Russia had
the numbers game won by a landslide. Their factories were untouched by
bombing, only had one front to worry about. Had things been even numbers
Russia would of lost the war in the first year.
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Post Re: Late-War Russian Success, 44-45.....

Thanks for the votes and comments so far, fairly interesting, but still kinda hard to tell what the "general" opinion is yet.

As I see it, there was no "one factor" in this, but so many that can be posted about, these were some of the ones that I thought about almost a year ago.

Cheers, more later on each of my votes!!

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