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#1 User is offline   Geek44 

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 10:47 PM

Following a potential thread hijacking in the Softball Sign Up joint...here's a new one. A couple of members and I have been discussing the pros and cons of our national football codes. Here's my take...

I had a mate in high school who had spent three years living in Providence, Rhode Island. He attended school there and learned something about the rules of NFL. Years later when we were sharing a house and we'd stay up late on a Thursday night and watch Don Lane present one NFL game. I grew to enjoy the strategic facet of the game but as an Aussie who's grown up with the fluid speed seen in AFL, I found the NFL game kinda stodgy...like day old porridge. Suffice to say I find rugby (both codes) a bit the same.
I must admit that I've forgotten most of the rules and some of the terminology ('First and down!!'). I suspect that with a more mature mind than I had in the 'Hobbsy/NFL' days, I might rekindle an interest.
Having said that...AFL is fast, hard and when played well...to my eyes...beautiful.
Here's one point of the game to accompany the video. If a player kicks the ball further than fifteen metres and a team mate catches it (termed 'a mark') without it touching the ground, the guy who caught the ball has a 'free kick' in which he can pick a target and kick toward it...be that another team mate or a score. He can also 'play on' which means he runs with the ball and is open to tackle...he must either bounce the ball or touch it to the ground every five seconds. A mark is not a score, but an opportunity to more efficiently move the ball toward the goal posts. The lengths to which players will go to achieve a 'mark' are extraordinary. It's a longish video at around five minutes. Those of us who love our 'footy' will watch it all twice.
Hal, I checked out that link...I know it's a tough game. Thanks...learning again.



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Posted December 05, 2008 - 10:50 PM

Hey Hal, what made you choose Jackson Trengrove? Google or preference?
I'm also really happy that the video includes the original commentary and not some (often awful) soundtrack. I've grown up with these voices on a winter's weekend...I suppose that's part of any sport largely appreciated via TV.
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Posted December 05, 2008 - 10:52 PM

Go Newcastle Knights!!! All I need to say!!!
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Posted December 05, 2008 - 11:07 PM



This is all I need to say. :applause:
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Posted December 05, 2008 - 11:10 PM

But you don't have this guy:



This is from 1967, during his college days. This is one of my earliest football memories.





He was unbelievably great.

Notice how it says "ABC Color". A lot of television was still in black and white in those days.
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Posted December 05, 2008 - 11:25 PM

Yeah...he was good. I think 'Nordberg' messed with his head.
We got our first colour TV in 1977...TV started here in 1956.
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Posted December 06, 2008 - 01:56 AM

Must say I would rather watch AFL but NFL and lawn bowls come in way ahead of soccer as a spectator sport. Not a wonder there are so many riots after soccer games. A couple of hours queueing to get in, listening to the same boring songs and trumpets for an hour and a half, capped off with nothing happening on the field and a draw to finish the day off. Not a wonder people want their money back after....

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Posted December 06, 2008 - 02:21 AM

Next time in a debate about whether soccer is any good or not, I plan to use the soccer promo tag-line against 'em.

'Soccer - 56 Teams, One goal.'

I rest my case.
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Posted December 07, 2008 - 04:54 PM

Geek44 said:

Following a potential thread hijacking in the Softball Sign Up joint...here's a new one. A couple of members and I have been discussing the pros and cons of our national football codes. Here's my take...

I had a mate in high school who had spent three years living in Providence, Rhode Island. He attended school there and learned something about the rules of NFL. Years later when we were sharing a house and we'd stay up late on a Thursday night and watch Don Lane present one NFL game. I grew to enjoy the strategic facet of the game but as an Aussie who's grown up with the fluid speed seen in AFL, I found the NFL game kinda stodgy...like day old porridge. Suffice to say I find rugby (both codes) a bit the same.
I must admit that I've forgotten most of the rules and some of the terminology ('First and down!!'). I suspect that with a more mature mind than I had in the 'Hobbsy/NFL' days, I might rekindle an interest.
Having said that...AFL is fast, hard and when played well...to my eyes...beautiful.
Here's one point of the game to accompany the video. If a player kicks the ball further than fifteen metres and a team mate catches it (termed 'a mark') without it touching the ground, the guy who caught the ball has a 'free kick' in which he can pick a target and kick toward it...be that another team mate or a score. He can also 'play on' which means he runs with the ball and is open to tackle...he must either bounce the ball or touch it to the ground every five seconds. A mark is not a score, but an opportunity to more efficiently move the ball toward the goal posts. The lengths to which players will go to achieve a 'mark' are extraordinary. It's a longish video at around five minutes. Those of us who love our 'footy' will watch it all twice.
Hal, I checked out that link...I know it's a tough game. Thanks...learning again.



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Posted December 08, 2008 - 08:58 AM

That's funny. A whole thread with AFL in it on a military history forum and not a thing about Geelong.

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Posted December 08, 2008 - 05:50 PM

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That's funny. A whole thread with AFL in it on a military history forum and not a thing about Geelong.
:dancer01: Its a WWII Military Forum, only Bombers, Eagles and Hawks rate a mention. :ziplip::rofl2::doh:


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Posted December 08, 2008 - 10:19 PM

Gee the Dockers won't be happy.

Tw Dockers fans called in to the radio yesterday.... I didn't know they had that many and I wonder who they got to dial the number for them too....

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Posted December 09, 2008 - 07:27 PM

Salutations

AFL there is only one and that is the Port Adelaide Power (the original magpies)

NFL there is only one and that is the San Francisco 49er's.

Anything else is vomit.

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Posted December 09, 2008 - 07:52 PM

Port who ? Oh - The Port Adelaide Nevereadies.

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Posted December 09, 2008 - 11:52 PM

MAGNA said:

Port who ? Oh - The Port Adelaide Nevereadies.


Salutations MAGNA

Get Stuffed.

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Posted December 10, 2008 - 07:57 AM

Thank you Rodoss. That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all week.

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Posted December 10, 2008 - 06:57 PM

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Salutations MAGNA

Get Stuffed.

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:dancer01: Spoken like a true aussie.



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Posted December 11, 2008 - 01:30 AM

This is football.

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Posted December 11, 2008 - 03:13 AM

Hey, it's called "FOOTball" for a reason. n' NFL ain't real footie...
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Posted December 11, 2008 - 09:57 AM

Depends what you were brought up on I suppose.

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