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Posted January 30, 2009 - 04:05 AM

Check this out! You can find the guide under the "Painting Guide" button!

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Posted January 30, 2009 - 11:07 AM

Hmm, the site seems to be down, from that link or a google search I can't get to the website....
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 11:25 AM

I can get to it without any problem.
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 11:54 AM

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Check this out! You can find the guide under the "Painting Guide" button!

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Good find Urban, looks like nice handy guide to use next time I do a Building or two. I like the oil paint usage here. Most of you know me as a Drybrusher and a NON-OIL user, but the more I see things like this, the easier it looks, and the more enticed I am to try it. I did buy an OIL set a few years ago, and I used it to do actual oil on canvas type stuff. I may now find a new use for the stuff.....
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 07:32 PM

Chuck, I can't help but think you'd do wonders with oil paint.
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 08:00 PM

It looks really nice, but I can't help but think that all of these pre made extra's are kind of getting away from the true spirit of modeling. They are great for wargaming but the day will come when you will get a whole heap of identical kits, biuldings etc with all the same extra's and all the same paint jobs all lined up in a neat row.
In my opinion it detracts from displaying the true skill of the builder, and to a degree spoils the enjoyment of making a kit when you can get all of that detail in a box. It's one thing to get a bit of xtra detail by using resins and even then this should be limited but it's something else to get it all done for you and then copy someone else painting it and then try to pass it off as your own. How will you ever improve your skills and gain new materials if it's all done for you?
Just my own views here, no need to flame me :applause:
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 10:26 PM

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It looks really nice, but I can't help but think that all of these pre made extra's are kind of getting away from the true spirit of modeling. They are great for wargaming but the day will come when you will get a whole heap of identical kits, biuldings etc with all the same extra's and all the same paint jobs all lined up in a neat row.
In my opinion it detracts from displaying the true skill of the builder, and to a degree spoils the enjoyment of making a kit when you can get all of that detail in a box. It's one thing to get a bit of xtra detail by using resins and even then this should be limited but it's something else to get it all done for you and then copy someone else painting it and then try to pass it off as your own. How will you ever improve your skills and gain new materials if it's all done for you?
Just my own views here, no need to flame me :applause:


I feel this way about alot of aftermarket items like PE and resin.

Times are changing. It use to be all about the build but now it's all about the finish. Things I scratchbuilt 20 yrs ago I can buy from multiple aftermarket manufacturers.

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Posted January 30, 2009 - 10:50 PM

Put in a simpler form, if any of you were judges would you vote for the crisp and immaculate Spitfire with the super fine detailed cockpit or the Well made but hand built Spitfire with well made but not so crisp interior?
You would vote for the one that looks the best and not care about whether it rolled off the production line in some sweat shop.
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Posted January 30, 2009 - 11:13 PM

RAF Liberators said:

It looks really nice, but I can't help but think that all of these pre made extra's are kind of getting away from the true spirit of modeling. They are great for wargaming but the day will come when you will get a whole heap of identical kits, biuldings etc with all the same extra's and all the same paint jobs all lined up in a neat row.
In my opinion it detracts from displaying the true skill of the builder, and to a degree spoils the enjoyment of making a kit when you can get all of that detail in a box. It's one thing to get a bit of xtra detail by using resins and even then this should be limited but it's something else to get it all done for you and then copy someone else painting it and then try to pass it off as your own. How will you ever improve your skills and gain new materials if it's all done for you?
Just my own views here, no need to flame me :applause:


No Flame, you got a point. And that's why when I get buildings I get the plaster ones....and shape them to what I want them to be.... Plaster can be carved and reshaped to a degree, and one can do some neat things with the interiors. The plaster shells to me are just a "Jump Start" so I dont have to mess with that aspect. I have completely made building from "Scratch" but there are times I just want to use something half-way there.....or sometimes you just can't find that building or ruins you are looking for, and just build it up yourself. I kinda see both sides of the point.....cuz I do both.
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Posted January 31, 2009 - 12:22 PM

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Chuck, I can't help but think you'd do wonders with oil paint.
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Thanks Nick, I gotta play with them one day....I can see that coming. What was in that guide really inspired me. I Like what he did with the roof tiles especially. I just usually do all that shading with layers of drybrushing, but I think I can cook up a way to do both.....using the oils as a blending, like I do with my washes....
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Posted January 31, 2009 - 01:48 PM

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Geek44 said:

Chuck, I can't help but think you'd do wonders with oil paint.
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Thanks Nick, I gotta play with them one day....I can see that coming. What was in that guide really inspired me. I Like what he did with the roof tiles especially. I just usually do all that shading with layers of drybrushing, but I think I can cook up a way to do both.....using the oils as a blending, like I do with my washes....


The videos are fun to watch also.
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Posted January 31, 2009 - 02:13 PM

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Geek44 said:

Chuck, I can't help but think you'd do wonders with oil paint.
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Thanks Nick, I gotta play with them one day....I can see that coming. What was in that guide really inspired me. I Like what he did with the roof tiles especially. I just usually do all that shading with layers of drybrushing, but I think I can cook up a way to do both.....using the oils as a blending, like I do with my washes....


The videos are fun to watch also.


I had a couple that kept hanging up, Scott....but I waited til later and got to see em all...very nice.
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Posted January 31, 2009 - 04:10 PM

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Panzermacher said:

Geek44 said:

Chuck, I can't help but think you'd do wonders with oil paint.
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Thanks Nick, I gotta play with them one day....I can see that coming. What was in that guide really inspired me. I Like what he did with the roof tiles especially. I just usually do all that shading with layers of drybrushing, but I think I can cook up a way to do both.....using the oils as a blending, like I do with my washes....


The videos are fun to watch also.


I had a couple that kept hanging up, Scott....but I waited til later and got to see em all...very nice.


I just downloaded them all. I'm a downloadaholic so it's pretty normal for me. :applause: Just more junk to clutter up my hard drive.
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Posted January 31, 2009 - 08:49 PM

I guess it's a matter of taste and preference. There's stuff I'd never buy because I'd prefer to build or make it myself, but then there's stuff I'd never make...simply because the aftermarket stuff is so much better in terms of accuracy. I can't imagine ever buying buildings or parts of them, trees or that kind of stuff, but pedals for a Spitfire...you bet, gun-bay details...certainly. It takes me long enough to build a single kit because I'm slow...each to their own. Besides, nobody paints anything quite like anyone else, everybody imparts their own constantly evolving style to a model and further, no two stock kits ever look the same even if the same person builds them. I have the greatest respect for the craft of scratch-building simply because I've tried it and I know how much more challenging it is...I also know I suck at it.
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