[Aussie Dave]

How many of you folks actually check all the calls and charges on your phone bill?

I was going through the list of calls made when I came across one that caught my eye...

Call Duration: 0.01 seconds.
Call Charge: 55 cents.

I know its not much money but come on, 0.01 seconds???
That has to be a world record for the fastest phone conversation ever.

The aussies here will understand when I say that, yes I am with Telstra.




Going on to a different subject, "Religious Nuts."

Most are pretty harmless but others need to be locked up.
Here is someone who IMO fits into the second catagory.




To be honest I felt like I wanted to slap (hard.) some sense into her and those church followers while watching that interview, but I think this aussie in the next clip has a better way of dealing with them.



Yes, take the p_ss and mess with their heads while having a laugh, all at the same time.
(Brilliant idea mate.)


Cheers,
Dave

[Geek44]

Dave, when I started to read your post I thought 'this'll be a Telstra thing' and sure enough...you're with Telstra.
When we moved into this house five years ago, we were with Telstra. We had a new line installed and when we got the bill maybe a week later, they were billing us for calls to Liberia, Ethiopia and Sudan! Big, long calls too...the bill was about six hundred bucks. Suffice to say we didn't pay and we're no longer with that particular provider. Once, they rang us to try and woo us back. The guy asked me 'what do we have to do to get you back with us?' to which I replied (honestly) 'Mate, if you were here right now in my dining room providing sexual favours for both my partner and myself I still wouldn't consider it!' They're thieving bastards mate and they've become complacent. Optus is fine...they recently fixed our phone line free of charge. Try getting that out of old Sol Trujillo.
Peace.

[MAGNA]

Same here. We changed from Telstra a few years ago now and it's way cheaper as well as being correct with the bills. Not to mention the internet. With Telstra if you went over it was 15c a meg. Easy for that to get really bad. Also, about three times all out email 'disappeared' due to server problems. Each time we were credited for the loss - $5 off our bill - too bad about the emails of course. Stuff that.

[Jim O]

Dave,

That group is old disgusting news here in the US. I must admit it's one of the few things on which I agree with that self-described "journalist" Sean Hannity.

[Aussie Dave]

Jim O said:

Dave,

That group is old disgusting news here in the US. I must admit it's one of the few things on which I agree with that self-described "journalist" Sean Hannity.

Yeah I know its pretty old now and I only included it because I loved the way Firth dealt with them in the second clip. (Classic.)

And I know what you mean about Sean Hannity, we have plenty of reptiles that call themselves journos here in Oz too.
But IMHO, Fox News in the US takes the cake for serving up biased, misleading and right-wing BS.
(Fox should be re-named "Republican News & Propaganda.")





You've heard Nick talk about the poor quality of news etc, that our commercial TV stations pump out, but hear him praise our two remaining "free to air" stations the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Commission.) and SBS.
He is dead right too.

The ABC and SBS are the only two TV stations here in Australia that are soley tax payer funded and truely independant, so what's shown on the news isn't directed and controlled (manipulated) from "Upstairs," unlike the other stations here.
(Not to mention that the programs in general are better quality than that commercial junk the others show.)



Cheers,
Dave

[Maglar]

I'm sorry guys, but I would LOVE to take a 2 by 4 to Shirleys head a few times, maybe a loose nail wouldnt hurt either. Truly disguisting how they go and ruin funerals because of their beliefs, leave the poor people alone.

[Geek44]

Keep in mind who owns Fox Dave...an ex-Aussie who can't seem to keep out of Aussie affairs now.
I know people who get their opinions from tabloid TV journalism. According to them, the streets are ruled by gangs of armed teenagers (what?!), every man is a child molester (huh?!) and criminals have fun in prison.

I saw that 'God Hates Gay People' vid on YouTube about six weeks back. Makes me wonder. If man was 'creatd in God's image' (their words not mine) then God must think being gay is just fine. Otherwise He wouldn't have made them. These people seem to be operating under the rather naive misconception that people choose to be gay. I couldn't be gay any more than I could be black...how come they never made that leap themselves?

True again Dave about the ABC and SBS. I don't feel patronized when I watch any program on either channel...even the kid's TV. I watch channel 9 and feel like I need a shower.
Peace.

[Aussie Dave]

Geek44 said:

Keep in mind who owns Fox Dave...an ex-Aussie who can't seem to keep out of Aussie affairs now.
I know people who get their opinions from tabloid TV journalism. According to them, the streets are ruled by gangs of armed teenagers (what?!), every man is a child molester (huh?!) and criminals have fun in prison.

I saw that 'God Hates Gay People' vid on YouTube about six weeks back. Makes me wonder. If man was 'creatd in God's image' (their words not mine) then God must think being gay is just fine. Otherwise He wouldn't have made them. These people seem to be operating under the rather naive misconception that people choose to be gay. I couldn't be gay any more than I could be black...how come they never made that leap themselves?

True again Dave about the ABC and SBS. I don't feel patronized when I watch any program on either channel...even the kid's TV. I watch channel 9 and feel like I need a shower.
Peace.

You don't have to remind me about Mr Murdoch being an ex-aussie.
(I guess we do export some of our large native reptiles to the US.)

IIRC, both he and Mr Gates have followed the same principals of the "Gordon Gekko School of Business" and in fact Rupert still continues to follow them.
(And thats why he gave up his Australian citizenship. How noble of him.)

I'm not surprised he's involving himself over here now, his boys in the US have been voted out and after some of the dirty tricks Fox have pulled over the last two presidential terms, he's laying low over there.







Did you know the Baptist "Church" that was protesting is not affiliated with any other Baptist church or religious group and only have just over 100 members in it.

No surprise?

Well it will be no surprise to learn that about 80% of them are actually related to each other.
(I think their "Gene Pool" has been in need of an urgent infusion of fresh DNA material for a long time now.)



Cheers,
Dave

[Maglar]

Geek44 said:

These people seem to be operating under the rather naive misconception that people choose to be gay. I couldn't be gay any more than I could be black...how come they never made that leap themselves?

There's been an observation that "gay" people have larger cluster of cells in their hypothalamus upon birth and that it could be linked to birth and not "chosen". Though some people choose it, some don't. But nothing in psychology can be proven because there's always the exception to the rule..

[Aussie Dave]

Well I've talked to (questioned) a few gay guys about this and they all agree they always knew deep down they were gay, even from a young age they knew they were that way inclined.

Besides that who cares what they do to each other?
As long as they don't try involve me in their private business, I don't really care what they do.

I even went out with a bisexual girl for just over 12 months when I was 21.
(WOW!!! is all I can say about that.)

Gays are not evil or bad people and Homophobia is nothing more than an irrational fear of a closed mind.



Cheers
Dave

[Maglar]

Nice Dave, 3-some anyone?

I don't have a problem with it either, I dont think gay marriage should be looked at the way it is, its what they want and give them their damn respect just like they give you their respect for marrying a man or woman. But a lot of people are naive when it doesnt meet up with the 'norm' of things, its all learned. I would just like to know from where...

[Geek44]

I've known gay people of both genders all my life. Some outrageously so and others very low key. Inevitably, I've been hit on by a few gay guys and without exception, they've all been satisfied with 'sorry mate, I'm straight'. In short, I think homophobia says a lot about the homophobe and in shorter, I have no time for anyone who still thinks being gay or straight even matters. There are times when I prefer the company of gay men to straight ones because they're gentler, more in touch with how they feel and are able to talk about it, are AWESOME with my kids (the words 'gay' and 'paedophile' are NOT interchangeable contrary to popular (and idiotic) belief) and aren't into that rather dull 'I'm very tough so watch out' swagger that many straight guys seem to think they need. As for gay marriage, I know a male couple who have been together for ten years, fight like cats and dogs, hate one another a lot of the time and generally act married. As Dave said, what happens in their home is no business of mine so it's of no consequence to me. Same applies to the straight couples I know. Tolerance doesn't cost anything. You'd think it would be more prevalent.
Peace.

[kentek]

Geek44 said:

I've known gay people of both genders all my life. Some outrageously so and others very low key. Inevitably, I've been hit on by a few gay guys and without exception, they've all been satisfied with 'sorry mate, I'm straight'. In short, I think homophobia says a lot about the homophobe and in shorter, I have no time for anyone who still thinks being gay or straight even matters. There are times when I prefer the company of gay men to straight ones because they're gentler, more in touch with how they feel and are able to talk about it, are AWESOME with my kids (the words 'gay' and 'paedophile' are NOT interchangeable contrary to popular (and idiotic) belief) and aren't into that rather dull 'I'm very tough so watch out' swagger that many straight guys seem to think they need. As for gay marriage, I know a male couple who have been together for ten years, fight like cats and dogs, hate one another a lot of the time and generally act married. As Dave said, what happens in their home is no business of mine so it's of no consequence to me. Same applies to the straight couples I know. Tolerance doesn't cost anything. You'd think it would be more prevalent.
Peace.

Too true, Nick. I've know a few gays in my time. From a Marine with two tours in Vietnam (talked me through a very immature and lost time in my life) to an ex-Air Force captain magazine photographer whose landscapes were absolutely breathtaking. I never guessed the Marine's 'orientation' until I saw him coming out of a Denver gay bar. The photographer was fairly blatant, but when I told him I was straight, he said " That's cool." and loaned me his car because mine was in the shop.

I loved to get invitations from a Lesbian 'married' couple a few years ago. One was a surgical nurse and the other was a stay-at -home mom with two wonderful children who were quite unaware how they were being 'warped'. The nurse played guitar and had one of the sweetest, purest voices I've ever heard. Her mate had a little keyboard and they harmonized nicely. An evening at their home was full of good food, good music and very bad puns. Unfortunately, they moved to Seattle and I lost touch with them.

Of the many gays I've known, there have been good and bad, arrogant and humble, talented and dull. Just like the people I've known from any race and creed. Just like people.

[Wustenfuchs]

This is why I'm Here and not There anymore (much).

I enjoy the input of intelligent, logical, non hateful people. (Hooray for the Zone! )

Gays, just like everyone else are the creation of whatever made us all (call it God if you want).

I'm not Gay, but as a fellow human on this strange journey of life, I have absolutely nothing against them.

We have bigger problems than worrying about who's Gay. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Maglar]

No one should have anything against any form of people. I hate the term "them" becuase they are not a sub-group.. I just dont understand why people jump so quick to be hateful and not see the whole picture when it comes to homosexuality. If your best friend for 15 years told you one day he was gay, nothing would change between you and him [some thoughts possibly]. People need to learn this!

As Geek stated, his gay friends are more kind and arent all "im a big strong man" like most straight men, hell.. id rather be hanging with them then straight up assholes.

[Geek44]

Why is it that gay men have impeccable taste and always have good coffee in their homes?
I shared a flat for a couple of years with a guy I knew from high school back in '91. He was quite effeminate but 'wasn't gay'...not that I asked or accused him but he was never short of female companions. Funny thing was that after about six weeks, these poor chicks would dump him, call the flat when they knew I'd be home alone and have a big talk with me about whether I thought he was gay or not. This happened maybe a dozen times in two years...in fact two of his exes invited me over for dinner...I never accepted, he was my buddy. (For those who don't know...if a woman feeds you, it means she fancies you in my experience). As far as I know, he's still single with a trail of very short hetero relationships behind him...I wonder if he knows.
I also worked with a guy who was also effeminate in many ways. Once, we were working the same shift on the same machine all day. The radio was on and there was a joke told that I didn't quite catch because of the machine noise. I asked him 'Did you hear that? Was that a gay thing?' Well... The guy flipped out. He got right in my face and screamed at the top of his voice 'I'm not f******* gay you f******* ***t!!!!!!!' Then he stormed off and went home before the shift was half over. A line by Shakespeare went through my mind 'Methinks he doth protest too much' and if ever there was proof of a soul in torment, there it was. Five years later I was walking down the street in the city when a car drove by and the driver was leaning on his horn. It stopped and reversed up to me. It was the same guy...I hadn't seen him for years. He jumped out of the car, gave me a huge hug and asked if I'd heard the news. When I said; 'No...what news?' he proclaimed 'I'm a screaming poofter and I've never been happier!!!' ('Poofter' or 'poof' which rhymes with hoof is an Anglo term that I'm unsure the Yanks will be familiar with or not...no prizes for guessing its meaning...the rhyming slang term 'horses hoof' refers to 'poof'...gay guy...we don't use 'fag' or 'faggot' much...seems kinda demeaning to me). He was 27 when he came out and it changed his life. We had worked together in a fairly macho environment...I was the only one who never bothered him about his sexuality...the other 'tough guys' were too immature or nervous of him not to question him and make lewd remarks. One time, I found a pink dress with puff sleeves in the rag-bag. It was the boss' mother's and had found its way into the factory for use as a rag. I slipped it into my overalls and snuck into the toilet where I got out of my work clothes and put the dress on. I spent the rest of the day wearing it. One guy came up to me and started making stupid 'bums to the wall' comments to everyone else. I asked him 'Just how deep does your stupidity go mate? Are you really that childish or are you trying to win a bet? I've worked with you for three years and in that time I've had two girlfriends, both of whom you've either seen or met. Are you really that simple that you think this dress changes my orientation? Proof that you have more teeth than brain cells.' The boss and his 2IC though it was hilarious...so did I. Incidentally, one of the women from the office came down and said 'Seriously, pink looks great on you.' Later, at another job I had a pink shirt I used to wear. Every time I wore that pink shirt (it's NOT pink...it's salmon!) I'd be asked out by a woman. Women are a bit more forward down here I believe...good on 'em too.
Peace.

This post has been edited by Geek44: April 04, 2009 - 07:50 AM

[Aussie Dave]

Geek44 said:

Why is it that gay men have impeccable taste and always have good coffee in their homes?
I shared a flat for a couple of years with a guy I knew from high school back in '91. He was quite effeminate but 'wasn't gay'...not that I asked or accused him but he was never short of female companions. Funny thing was that after about six weeks, these poor chicks would dump him, call the flat when they knew I'd be home alone and have a big talk with me about whether I thought he was gay or not. This happened maybe a dozen times in two years...in fact two of his exes invited me over for dinner...I never accepted, he was my buddy. (For those who don't know...if a woman feeds you, it means she fancies you in my experience). As far as I know, he's still single with a trail of very short hetero relationships behind him...I wonder if he knows.
Peace.

Sounds to me like he has a severe case of denial.
(It happens.)



Cheers,
Dave

[Maglar]

Or he needs to find his Souuuuuul mate.. Its like modeling, keep going at it and one day you end up with a good lookin model. Styrene of course

[Geek44]

Sure it's denial Dave. There were sad and lewd rumours about him at high school because he got into the drama scene (we know of course that all actors are gay right?) and the school plays. He earned himself the rather homophobic nickname of 'handbag'.
Mag, six weeks isn't a long enough time to really get to know anybody in the relationship context. Unless I found myself a real psycho (it happens), I'd always stick out a relationship for a year if I could. That's a reasonable time to know or not for me. I only ever had two girlfriends I dumped or was dumped by in less than a year. One nut only lasted three months. I learned she was a liar. She then faked a pregnancy (claimed it was mine) and a termination...a real bunny-boiler. Six months later, she married some other poor fool.
Ever met a homophobic gay guy? I've known two.
Mate, the guy in denial is over forty now. He'd better get his act together before it's too late.
I must admit I'm cynical about the whole idea of the 'soul mate'. In my opinion, out of a hundred women, it's probably possible to have fun with half of them and a meaningful, long-term relationship with ten of them. Every person we have a relationship changes us and we change them.
My current partner...
I was at a friend's place one night playing games on his computer. In walked three women. Two of whom I knew quite well. One said; 'Nick, this is my big sister Leah.' I looked up briefly and said 'G'day' and got back to my game. Leah claims that she knew right from that moment that I was 'the one'. In fact a cairvoyant had told her she'd meet her life partner when she was in her late thirties (she was 38) and that he'd be smart (), skinny and wear glasses. I never gave her a second look. But I kept running into her. At a cafe one night, again at the supermarket, at a party and then she showed up at my art exhibition and bought some of my work. It came up in conversation that my fridge was dying. She said she had a fridge she needed to get rid of and she offered it to me...I accepted. She invited me around to dinner (we know what that means don't we?). I accepted. Eight years and two kids later it's still a great relationship...mostly because I think she's smarter than I am in many ways and she's funny.
Peace.

This post has been edited by Geek44: April 05, 2009 - 12:54 AM

[Maglar]

Awwwwwwwwwwww, my statement above was for you Nick, that otha dude needs to pick it up! You and your hobbies man, first the modeling with the GF watching TV then computer games and someone trying to meet you. You should be blessed you are this lucky mate, ive never had any luck in my life man. I dont even win the little prizes at fairs, I hope my luck ticket gets called soon!

You also look like Hugh, what woman doesnt want him? Seriously... :rofl2: