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Posted March 20, 2008 - 06:10 PM

Command Group KampfGruppe Peiper, Ardennes

Well known photo taken from movie film of Peiper in a Schwimmwagen on a recconoiter
http://worldwartwozo...=1&d=1206053903
SdKfz 7 on the move
http://worldwartwozo...=1&d=1206053903
Apparently lots and lots of "Liberated" Ami cigars and cigarettes to be had
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Posted March 21, 2008 - 07:41 PM

Fallschirmjagers on a King Tiger
http://worldwartwozo...=1&d=1206146085

Dispatch rider has been given a smokehttp://worldwartwozo...=1&d=1206146085

Waffen SS Oberscharfuhrer signals the advance
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German troops advance past burning U.S. column
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Posted April 19, 2008 - 09:47 PM

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Surrounded near Bastogne, American troops "hunker down" on the line
Nostradamus predicted this.

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Posted August 20, 2008 - 07:11 PM

Dear "razorboy" you have a little wrong:undecided: in the first pic "schwimmwagen"of the Bulge offensive.the guy of the pic is a "SS-Unterscharführer Ochsner"(with cigar) and "SS-Oberscharführer Persin"....and belongs to 3.Kompanie, SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt.1 from "Kampfgruppe Knittel"....at 18 December 1944 around the Kaiserbaracke crossroads east of Stavelot :anim_grenade:
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...another one pic from Concord book "Panzers in the Ardennes offensive"7042
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Posted August 20, 2008 - 07:27 PM

Looks like we have an ardennes and waffen ss expert amongst us, glad to have you mate . The second photo has been identified in many resource's, as the lead element's of Kg Peiper's recon battalion is this correct kostas

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Posted August 20, 2008 - 08:35 PM

LAH 1 SS said:

Looks like we have an ardennes and waffen ss expert amongst us, glad to have you mate . The second photo has been identified in many resource's, as the lead element's of Kg Peiper's recon battalion is this correct kostas

thank you my friend ,in the second pic has become a misinformation from many sites.

"Kampfgruppe Knittel" it acted near Stavelot (behind Kg Peiper's) and took order to advance in this town for recaptured from Americans 30th infantry division and elements of 823 tank destroyer battalion .....i think.
Exist a lot few original pictures from Kampfgruppe Peiper because this group advance in night and fast.The more of this pic was a "staged-propaganda".
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Posted August 20, 2008 - 08:38 PM

Yes i did understan Kosta's Thankyou for the clarification mate.

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Posted August 21, 2008 - 05:25 PM

cyberia said:

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Surrounded near Bastogne, American troops "hunker down" on the line


Paul the caption is a bit off. Those are members of the 2nd Infantry Div and were not near Bastogne at all during the battle. They were the extreme north shoulder of the intrusion on Elsenbern Ridge. I far as I can find they were never surrounded and put up a stiff resistance.
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Posted August 21, 2008 - 05:28 PM

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cyberia said:

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Surrounded near Bastogne, American troops "hunker down" on the line


Paul the caption is a bit off. Those are members of the 2nd Infantry Div and were not near Bastogne at all during the battle. They were the extreme north shoulder of the intrusion on Elsenbern Ridge. I far as I can find they were never surrounded and put up a stiff resistance.


Cool! You would know better than me on this Matt, and obviously more than whoever put in the original information.
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Posted August 21, 2008 - 05:52 PM

cyberia said:

Airchallenged said:

cyberia said:

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Surrounded near Bastogne, American troops "hunker down" on the line


Paul the caption is a bit off. Those are members of the 2nd Infantry Div and were not near Bastogne at all during the battle. They were the extreme north shoulder of the intrusion on Elsenbern Ridge. I far as I can find they were never surrounded and put up a stiff resistance.


Cool! You would know better than me on this Matt, and obviously more than whoever put in the original information.


Yeah I knew the only units near Bastogne were the 101st and the 10th Armored, plus men who decided to hold out, when it was surrounded. I didn't recall who was originally there but I knew it wasn't the second.
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Posted December 01, 2008 - 12:29 AM

kostas13 said:

Dear "razorboy" you have a little wrong:undecided: in the first pic "schwimmwagen"of the Bulge offensive.the guy of the pic is a "SS-Unterscharführer Ochsner"(with cigar) and "SS-Oberscharführer Persin"....and belongs to 3.Kompanie, SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt.1 from "Kampfgruppe Knittel"....at 18 December 1944 around the Kaiserbaracke crossroads east of Stavelot :pirate:
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...another one pic from Concord book "Panzers in the Ardennes offensive"7042
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These are the same men in both photos.
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Posted December 01, 2008 - 01:45 AM

Airchallenged said:

cyberia said:

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Surrounded near Bastogne, American troops "hunker down" on the line


Paul the caption is a bit off. Those are members of the 2nd Infantry Div and were not near Bastogne at all during the battle. They were the extreme north shoulder of the intrusion on Elsenbern Ridge. I far as I can find they were never surrounded and put up a stiff resistance.


I'm thinking these guys are members of the 2nd ID, Field Artillery, judging by the M1 Carbines.
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