Scrap Metal-Photo Album of Destroyed Armor

[Geek44]

Originally Posted by cyberia

I have seen it before, in one of my books. Finding it again is going to take some doing.

Come to think of it, I think it was offered as a decal for a 1/35 kit as well.

Indeed it was. Tamiya I think.

[Jim O]

Originally Posted by Geek44

I'm pretty certain that this emblem is the coat of arms of the city of Vienna and was used by the 2nd Panzer Div. This was one of several markings used.

This is what I found for the coat of arms of Vienna, which is a single headed eagle:

viennacoat.gif

The double headed eagle as seen here was the symbol of Austria-Hungary from 1867 until its dissolution following World War I.

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1867-1915


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1915-1918

Of course there is a crown on these, but I am guessing that the emblem was a field applied makeshift coat of arms of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire, though the shield in the center is more like that of the city of Vienna.

[Geek44]

Nice one Jim...my armour references are pretty limited.

[LAH 1 SS]

the unit emblem is for the PzRgt3 "Zitadelle" used on the ausf ns and various other vehicles assosciated with the regiment hope it helps

[Geek44]

Originally Posted by LAH 1 SS

the unit emblem is for the PzRgt3 "Zitadelle" used on the ausf ns and various other vehicles assosciated with the regiment hope it helps

My references state that the badge is the Viennese coat of arms and was one of the 2nd Panzer Div. It shows colour profiles (not photos) of a Pz. III Ausf. M, Ausf. N and a Pz. IV Ausf. H wearing it. All are camouflaged in dunkelgelb and green only.
What say you LAH, is my book the worthless rag I begin to suspect it is?

[LAH 1 SS]

i got my reference from a website that has a plethora of unit insignia and markings geek 44 the emblem is appears to me to be for the pzregt 3 at the battle for zitadelle i dont know what your book says mate im sorry i dont want to say the book you have is wrong when it could be right and i could be wrong i will send you a pm

[Geek44]

That's cool LAH, I'm perfectly able to say my book is a load of proverbial...it may well be. Just so you know mate, tanks are awesome, but they're not my forte at all. I can tell the difference between a Panzer III and a Panzer IV but my knowledge is pretty basic. Still, I'm interested and am always ready to learn about the stuff I build models of...whatever that may be. BTW, thanks for the info in the PM mate and BTW again, I found nothing of interest in the model shop today that was within my price range. More on that elsewhere.
Peace.

[LAH 1 SS]

fair enough mate only to happy to help as i said earlier maybe if cyberia had another photo of the same vehicle but on a different angle showing the shield might help a bit

[Horch]

Well, I thank all. Glad to have some sort of idea.

[cyberia]

Originally Posted by LAH 1 SS

fair enough mate only to happy to help as i said earlier maybe if cyberia had another photo of the same vehicle but on a different angle showing the shield might help a bit

I think the chances of that might be slim. But I do come across one I'll be sure to post it and link to this discussion.