Your thoughts on this, gentlemen?

[TRDG]

Hey, I got the pic to work!!!

Now, probably as easy one for most, but what is it? I know, and I'm trying to start this thread off with a little interest before we get into the nuts and bolts of this interesting machine.

Cheers, hints as needed, but that should'nt be "needed" I bet!!

TRDG

Tom

[Pylon1357]

SP gun of some sort but thats as far I venture off the trail.

[temujin77]

Interesting halftrack... appears to have ample firepower, too. I have no idea what it is, but I guess you did you job with the teaser, because I'm now dying to find out!

[TRDG]

Thanks guys, glad you like it, I'll wait til' Wednesday, then give a hint if it stays the same so far as to ideas or guesses.

Cheers for now though. But you made my day by your posts, THANKS!!

TRDG

Tom

[cyberia]

Originally Posted by TRDG

Hey, I got the pic to work!!!

Now, probably as easy one for most, but what is it? I know, and I'm trying to start this thread off with a little interest before we get into the nuts and bolts of this interesting machine.

Cheers, hints as needed, but that should'nt be "needed" I bet!!

TRDG

Tom

If I had to guess I would say what you have there is a Schneider AMC P16 (M29) French half-track. It weighed in at about 6.8 tonnes with a frontal armor thickness of 11mm and a total length of about 4.83 meters.
The M1928 trials for the P16 were fitted with the octagonal turret with a 37mm Sa18 main gun and coaxial 7.5 machine gun. In 1940 many P16s had the 37mm gun replaced with a 25mm Mle34 AT gun.

Schneider AMC P16

The Schneider in your photograph however, is one of many captured by the Germans in 1940 and redesigned for service with the Wehrmacht.

The Citroen-Kegresse half-track drive remained, but the turrets were scraped and the the vehicle was up-armored with the rear hull area given a look more common with the early SdKfz.251/1.

Kegresse P107 (f)

These vehicles were re-designated Kegresse P107 (f) and employed as troop transports, munitions schleppers and vehicles to tow artillery pieces.

Some of these half-tracks had the hull armor raised and were fitted with weapons ranging from 37mm PaKs to 75mm PaKs, and even captured Russian 76mm anti-tank guns.

[MAGNA]

Yes that's the one.

[TRDG]

Roger Paul, I have.....

S307(f) (PaK40) anti-tank half-track or 7.5cm Pak40 (sf) auf mSPW S307(f)

The standard 7.5cm PaK40 anit-tank gun mounted in an open-topped armoured body on a Somua MCG5

Weight - 8 tons estimated
Speed - 20mph/31km/h
Engine - Somua 80 hp
Armament - 7.5 PaK40 and an MG 42 anti-aircraft gun
Armour 1/2"/13mm (approximate)

Somua McG5 half-tracks were the 1940 standard French heavy Artillery tractor. Then Baustab Becker (Construction Staff becker) got ahold of them and made many (over 1800?) fighting vehicles and tanks that went back into german service.
And as you might have guessed, the 21st Panzerdivision got a lot of these babies.

Cheers, I have a small model pic example ( mine from FoW are still waiting to be shipped to me, at the moment) I will try to get up here, but if anyone has any other pics of these beauties, please post them here, I hav'nt found any others besides the one I posted here for "the real machine" yet.

TRDG

Tom

[cyberia]

I would be interested in some kit info as in scale and manufacturer. I don't have one of those in my collection yet!

[McCoy]

German doctrine by the end of the war was something in the lines of "If it moves, put a PAK40 on it".

[TRDG]

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I would be interested in some kit info as in scale and manufacturer.

I would like to do one in 1/35 scale myself, the "model" pictured on my last post is a 15mm game model for Flames of War.
I'll see if I can get another pic example, a different FoW model though for scale so you can tell better how small it really is.

Cheers, thanks for the interest guys, lets hope a model company will get one of these together in the future, 1/35 scale please!

Tom