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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: Operation Sealion

What about the U-Boats. Wouldn't a large concentration of them around the UK with missions to sink the RN do a good job? With help from the Luftwaffe of course.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Oh yeah Paul! I'm quite aware of it!

Waffle, KM didn't have near enough U-boats at the timeframe.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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Oh yeah Paul! I'm quite aware of it!

Waffle, KM didn't have near enough U-boats at the timeframe.
Right but I'm sure what they had to put a nice little dent into the Rn anyway.
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Re: Operation Sealion

RN had at the time in question not one but two fleets that each was bigger than the secon biggest fleet out there so they could surely take some dents n' setbacks n' still have a field day.
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Ya know what just hit me... if the Kriegsmarine didn't ave the amount of ships or U-boats needed...but did have cotrol of the air, why not just wait for more ships? Obvisouly there isn't going to be enough time to do a hole lot, but more smaller ships. Maybe even possibly get a littel help from the Italians?
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Ya know what just hit me... if the Kriegsmarine didn't ave the amount of ships or U-boats needed...but did have cotrol of the air, why not just wait for more ships? Obvisouly there isn't going to be enough time to do a hole lot, but more smaller ships. Maybe even possibly get a littel help from the Italians?
How were the Italians going to get their "fleet" past Gibraltar?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:15 PM
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YOU HAVE NAMED WHAT SHANT BE NAMED!!! TTSNBN is exactly what it says. Shame on you. If I hear of any land bridges across the Channel or U-boats towing concrete supply tubes, be expecting a knock on your door.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Ya know what just hit me... if the Kriegsmarine didn't ave the amount of ships or U-boats needed...but did have cotrol of the air, why not just wait for more ships? Obvisouly there isn't going to be enough time to do a hole lot, but more smaller ships. Maybe even possibly get a littel help from the Italians?
How were the Italians going to get their "fleet" past Gibraltar?
They ask nicely of course.
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Re: Operation Sealion

The Luftwaffe was not able to control the skies.

The Luftwaffe did not have an armor piercing bomb to take on the RN, or an air to surface torpedo for that matter.

River barges were not easy to manuever and protect enroute across the channel.

The Kriegsmarine did not have any heavy units available except for the Admiral Hipper available to support said invasion.

The Kriegsmarine did not have many U-boats available and operating in the confines of the channel would have been a death sentence for them.

The German destroyers were decimated in Norway.

The RAF is not gonna sit it out against the channel crossing.

Even if the Germans managed to land, there were no viable means of resupply.
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How were the Italians going to get their "fleet" past Gibraltar?
VERY carefully...
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