Michael Wittmann

[LAH 1 SS]

sorry horch no one in the photo is wittman. this photo actually is a third company photo and the ss in this photo are mainly the zug and commanders of the 3rd comapany. if you look at the uniforms you will notice that the ss are not wearing collar tabs etc or even decorations. the two in the leather coats are actaully dispatch motor cycle riders here is a series of nice photos (courtesy of another site) of wittmann and his crew shortly after recieving the knights cross after villers bocage

[Horch]

Originally Posted by LAH 1 SS

sorry horch no one in the photo is wittman. this photo actually is a third company photo and the ss in this photo are mainly the zug and commanders of the 3rd comapany. if you look at the uniforms you will notice that the ss are not wearing collar tabs etc or even decorations. the two in the leather coats are actaully dispatch motor cycle riders here is a series of nice photos (courtesy of another site) of wittmann and his crew shortly after recieving the knights cross after villers bocage

Sorry. That was whwt the caption stated. Ya gota good eye.

[Hagen]

You're not the first person to be caught by that pic Horch, I've seen it labeled as Wittman at other sites and in at least one book.

[LAH 1 SS]

Originally Posted by Horch

Here's a picture of him and crew I haven't seen.

i have posted some other veiws of this very same picture so here they are again i cant remember in which thread it was in sorry.




the photo actualy shows a feild exercise in mid may 44 east of ameins. the man in centre of the photo in the motorcycle coat is obersturmfuhrer henno raasch battalion commander. the officer in the 44 pattern tunic and trousers standing to the left of him is sturmbannfuhrer von westernhagen the unit commander. the officer in the peaked officers cap wearing the 44 pea tunic and black trouser standing next to the man wearing the motorcycle coat is ostuf atja ihrion the rest are zug and various tank commanders hope it helps

[Horch]

Thanks all.I like the different angles to boot.

[Hagen]

Originally Posted by Hagen

You're not the first person to be caught by that pic Horch, I've seen it labeled as Wittman at other sites and in at least one book.

Found the book the book that wrongly states that the picture shows Wittmann, it's "SS, Hell on the Western Front" by Chris Bishop. Part of the caption states " SS Obersturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann, seen here in the turret of his Tiger soon after being awarded the Swords to add to the Oakleaves of his Knights Cross."

[Troy Tempest]

Here is a link to the book review I did on Amazon for the 'Villers-Bocage Through the Lens' book, which was an excellent purchase, I thoroughly recommend it!

Amazon.com: Villers-Bocage Through the Lens: Daniel Taylor: Books

[Troy Tempest]

Originally Posted by Klaus

Thats what I got from a book. Different books, different numbers... But according to this Knispel, Carius, Bolter broke it


1. Kurt Knispel (s.Pz.Abt 503) -- 162
2. Otto Carius (s.Pz.Abt 502)-- 150
3. Johannes Hans Bolter (s.Pz.Abt 502)-- 139
4. Michael Wittman (s.SS.Pz.Abt 101)-- 138
5. Möbius Karl (Rolf ?) (s.SS.Pz.Abt.101)--125

Hi Klaus, there is also another, possibly equally important figure which isn't reflected here, Wittman knocked out over 120 anti-tank guns on the Eastern Front in addition to his tank kills.

[LAH 1 SS]

this book apart from the two by patrick agte on wittmann and the commanders of the leibstandarte are supposed to be the three leading resources on wittman and the action at villers bocage. there is also another guy on the missing lynx forum yann jannoult who is the guru on wittmann and 101 in normandy he is an absolute legend. nice review troy tempest

[Horch]

Originally Posted by Hagen

Found the book the book that wrongly states that the picture shows Wittmann, it's "SS, Hell on the Western Front" by Chris Bishop. Part of the caption states " SS Obersturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann, seen here in the turret of his Tiger soon after being awarded the Swords to add to the Oakleaves of his Knights Cross."

And to think they make money. You should write a book Hagen. You do better research!