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Old September 21st, 2006, 05:42 PM
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That was an era where top brass can be eccentric without getting into trouble. In WW1 MacArthur used to run out to the field without a helmet or gas mask, wearing only his crumbled cap. Then there's Patton who wears the laquered helmet everywhere, wears a non-standard issue ivory-handled sidearm, and brings his dog to the front lines. Oh and back to MacArthur with his cob pipe that was as large as his ego. And I'm sure there were many other examples that make Alexander's case trivial
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Old September 21st, 2006, 05:43 PM
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And he got away with a non-regulation hat because he was a General?
Tut! Tut! Would NEVER be allowed to happen in the Army of Uncle Sam, would it?

But there again, you would NEVER see a Limey officer chewing on a big cigar.
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That was an era where top brass can be eccentric without getting into trouble. In WW1 MacArthur used to run out to the field without a helmet or gas mask, wearing only his crumbled cap. Then there's Patton who wears the laquered helmet everywhere, wears a non-standard issue ivory-handled sidearm, and brings his dog to the front lines. Oh and back to MacArthur with his cob pipe that was as large as his ego. And I'm sure there were many other examples that make Alexander's case trivial
That was my point below. A "grunt" would have been busted for it.
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Tut! Tut! Would NEVER be allowed to happen in the Army of Uncle Sam, would it?

But there again, you would NEVER see a Limey officer chewing on a big cigar.
Never commented on the first part. As for the second, actually...you might.
British officer in Iraq war conduct probe: report

May 22 2003

A top British army officer, praised for his inspirational speech on the eve of the war in Iraq, is facing allegations that his treatment of prisoners of war and an Iraqi civic leader may have broken the Geneva Convention, The Sun tabloid said yesterday.

Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins, whose stirring speech to his troops was praised by Prince Charles, heir to the British throne, and US President George W. Bush, is being investigated by the army's Special Investigations Branch, defence sources told the tabloid.

The defence ministry refused to confirm that Collins was being investigated or what charges were involved.

"We can confirm that an investigation is being conducted into allegations that have been made against a British officer who was serving in Iraq," a defence ministry spokesman said.

According to The Sun, military investigators are probing claims that Collins punched, kicked and threatened captured Iraqi soldiers; pistol-whipped an Iraqi civic leader; fired at the ground near Iraqi civilians; and unnecessarily shot the tyres of vehicles.

Collins, 43, who was often seen with a cigar clenched between his teeth and wearing a pair of sunglasses, was commanding officer of the 1st Battalion of the Royal Irish Regiment during the war to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

He galvanised his infantry troops on the eve of battle with a speech in Kuwait in which he urged them to do their duty while treating the enemy with respect.

"There are some who are alive at this moment who will not be alive shortly," he said.

"Those who do not wish to go on that journey we will not send. As for the others, I expect you to rock their world," he said.

"Wipe them out if that is what they choose. But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory," he said.

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Source: British officer in Iraq war conduct probe: report
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And he got away with a non-regulation hat because he was a General?
The same as Monty got away with pink jumper, corduroy trousers and two badges on his beret.

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According to The Sun, military investigators are probing claims that Collins punched, kicked and threatened captured Iraqi soldiers; pistol-whipped an Iraqi civic leader; fired at the ground near Iraqi civilians; and unnecessarily shot the tyres of vehicles.
Ah! but if one has any knowledge of The Sun you would take any such reports with 'a very large dose of salt'.

If you are going to quote from this rag then it is probably best to just concern yourself with:
  1. What the Super Models are wearing this week
  2. How Manchester United are playing
  3. What illegal drugs are being taken by B-List celebrities.

or just admire the Topless lassie on Page 3
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Ah! but if one has any knowledge of The Sun you would take any such reports with 'a very large dose of salt'.

If you are going to quote from this rag then it is probably best to just concern yourself with:
  1. What the Super Models are wearing this week
  2. How Manchester United are playing
  3. What illegal drugs are being taken by B-List celebrities.

or just admire the Topless lassie on Page 3
Gee this is getting old.

Here's a photo.

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Is there a cigar in his mouth?
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Gee this is getting old.

Here's a photo.

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Is there a cigar in his mouth?
Hobilar is right Jim, he stated: "But there again, you would NEVER see a Limey officer chewing on a big cigar."

This is small one too... maybe they are just picking cigar butts walking behind Yanks....

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This is small one too... maybe they are just picking cigar butts walking behind Yanks....
Hey! Our soldiers NEVER walk behind the Yanks-We are out there 'Marching' in front of them.
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